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	<title>Comments on: When Your Network Is An Affiliate And Adware Company</title>
	<link>http://affiliatefairplay.com/newsblog/2007/08/06/when-your-network-is-an-affiliate-and-adware-company/</link>
	<description>Resources For Fair Practices In Affiliate Marketing</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Kevin Levine</title>
		<link>http://affiliatefairplay.com/newsblog/2007/08/06/when-your-network-is-an-affiliate-and-adware-company/#comment-291926</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Australian nation prozac.</title>
		<link>http://affiliatefairplay.com/newsblog/2007/08/06/when-your-network-is-an-affiliate-and-adware-company/#comment-291033</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;strong&gt;Australian nation prozac....&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>by: &#187; Rakuten Buys CauseLoyalty.com</title>
		<link>http://affiliatefairplay.com/newsblog/2007/08/06/when-your-network-is-an-affiliate-and-adware-company/#comment-53822</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://affiliatefairplay.com/newsblog/2007/08/06/when-your-network-is-an-affiliate-and-adware-company/#comment-53822</guid>
					<description>[...] While these types of acquisitions might make sense for the parent company&amp;#8217;s overall business strategy (Rakuten, ValueClick, Google and ThinkPartnerships are all publicly-traded companies as well), potential conflicts of interest arise when the Affiliate Network and the Affiliate are owned by the same company. Those very same conflicts of interest are a major contention I have with CPA Sub-Affiliate Networks. The potential conflicts of interest with CPA Sub-Affiliate Networks have, at times, evolved into reality. A recent example of such reality being with Axill. There is an undeniable fact that when an Affiliate is also owned by the Affiliate Network a situation arises of the fox guarding the hen house. Maybe the fox will be well trained and behaved and will guard the hen house. Maybe the fox will be hungry and see the hens as a good meal. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] While these types of acquisitions might make sense for the parent company&#8217;s overall business strategy (Rakuten, ValueClick, Google and ThinkPartnerships are all publicly-traded companies as well), potential conflicts of interest arise when the Affiliate Network and the Affiliate are owned by the same company. Those very same conflicts of interest are a major contention I have with CPA Sub-Affiliate Networks. The potential conflicts of interest with CPA Sub-Affiliate Networks have, at times, evolved into reality. A recent example of such reality being with Axill. There is an undeniable fact that when an Affiliate is also owned by the Affiliate Network a situation arises of the fox guarding the hen house. Maybe the fox will be well trained and behaved and will guard the hen house. Maybe the fox will be hungry and see the hens as a good meal. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Mike Nunez</title>
		<link>http://affiliatefairplay.com/newsblog/2007/08/06/when-your-network-is-an-affiliate-and-adware-company/#comment-50449</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://affiliatefairplay.com/newsblog/2007/08/06/when-your-network-is-an-affiliate-and-adware-company/#comment-50449</guid>
					<description>I just received an email from them trying to recruit me.  Looks like they have to get more aggressive.</description>
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		<title>by: Kellie AFP</title>
		<link>http://affiliatefairplay.com/newsblog/2007/08/06/when-your-network-is-an-affiliate-and-adware-company/#comment-44505</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://affiliatefairplay.com/newsblog/2007/08/06/when-your-network-is-an-affiliate-and-adware-company/#comment-44505</guid>
					<description>&quot;I’m curious as to whether you’ve contacted any of the merchants effected by this and what their response was, if any.&quot;

I profiled them on my Service a few weeks ago. So members of the Service had access to the information. Merchants and Networks I have frequent contact with because of ongoing relationship, I've probably thrown in a heads up during the course of discussing other matters. I've not been specifically contacting anyone about it. I just don't have the time. It's why I posted something publicly. :)

&quot;but why on earth aren’t merchants cracking down on this type of thievery? Don’t they realize that they are being stolen from also?&quot;

That answer is probably as varied as merchants. There could be many reasons. The AM/OPM profits, they aren't aware, they rely on their Network for compliance, the AM did understand all this stuff but then was replaced by someone who doesn't know and it's back to square one, AM doesn't want it but someone higher in the corporate food chain who has no clue about this stuff but only looks at numbers wants to keep the partnership, they don't have the resources/knowledge to investigate this stuff themselves and the reasons can go on and on. I do think that there are still quite a number of people out there who don't know about some of the way sales are generated. 

Oh this one I think a lot of people just didn't know. You would have had to do what I did and install the software and known how to check for the bho. I spent about 2 weeks investigating what I posted (well I have more info I didn't post). But still, it wasn't something that took me 5 minutes and I'm used to researching this kind of things so I'm probably a bit faster at it. But in my research I didn't find any other references of Axill having their own adware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m curious as to whether you’ve contacted any of the merchants effected by this and what their response was, if any.&#8221;</p>
<p>I profiled them on my Service a few weeks ago. So members of the Service had access to the information. Merchants and Networks I have frequent contact with because of ongoing relationship, I&#8217;ve probably thrown in a heads up during the course of discussing other matters. I&#8217;ve not been specifically contacting anyone about it. I just don&#8217;t have the time. It&#8217;s why I posted something publicly. <img src='http://affiliatefairplay.com/newsblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;but why on earth aren’t merchants cracking down on this type of thievery? Don’t they realize that they are being stolen from also?&#8221;</p>
<p>That answer is probably as varied as merchants. There could be many reasons. The AM/OPM profits, they aren&#8217;t aware, they rely on their Network for compliance, the AM did understand all this stuff but then was replaced by someone who doesn&#8217;t know and it&#8217;s back to square one, AM doesn&#8217;t want it but someone higher in the corporate food chain who has no clue about this stuff but only looks at numbers wants to keep the partnership, they don&#8217;t have the resources/knowledge to investigate this stuff themselves and the reasons can go on and on. I do think that there are still quite a number of people out there who don&#8217;t know about some of the way sales are generated. </p>
<p>Oh this one I think a lot of people just didn&#8217;t know. You would have had to do what I did and install the software and known how to check for the bho. I spent about 2 weeks investigating what I posted (well I have more info I didn&#8217;t post). But still, it wasn&#8217;t something that took me 5 minutes and I&#8217;m used to researching this kind of things so I&#8217;m probably a bit faster at it. But in my research I didn&#8217;t find any other references of Axill having their own adware.
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		<title>by: Chris Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://affiliatefairplay.com/newsblog/2007/08/06/when-your-network-is-an-affiliate-and-adware-company/#comment-44200</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 01:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Mike, that's obvious really, there's no money to be made in targeting a brand Like &quot;Moma Joe's Home Made Bake and Shake&quot; , they make their money cannibalizing brands are ambushing loyal customers, not from driving any new business. Robert : Reality is that a lot of AMs (a) are still clueless or (b) are protecting their jobs by showing what a &quot;great&quot; job they are doing by showing off sales by these affiliates to their manages (who have no idea what is really happening) &quot;Wow great job Bobby, Loyalty and organic sales are down but you picked up the slack!&quot; Cough...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, that&#8217;s obvious really, there&#8217;s no money to be made in targeting a brand Like &#8220;Moma Joe&#8217;s Home Made Bake and Shake&#8221; , they make their money cannibalizing brands are ambushing loyal customers, not from driving any new business. Robert : Reality is that a lot of AMs (a) are still clueless or (b) are protecting their jobs by showing what a &#8220;great&#8221; job they are doing by showing off sales by these affiliates to their manages (who have no idea what is really happening) &#8220;Wow great job Bobby, Loyalty and organic sales are down but you picked up the slack!&#8221; Cough&#8230;
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		<title>by: Robert</title>
		<link>http://affiliatefairplay.com/newsblog/2007/08/06/when-your-network-is-an-affiliate-and-adware-company/#comment-44129</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I understand why the networks condone (or at the very least ignore) this behavior to them a sell is a sell, but why on earth aren't merchants cracking down on this type of thievery?  Don't they realize that they are being stolen from also?

I'm curious as to whether you've contacted any of the merchants effected by this and what their response was, if any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand why the networks condone (or at the very least ignore) this behavior to them a sell is a sell, but why on earth aren&#8217;t merchants cracking down on this type of thievery?  Don&#8217;t they realize that they are being stolen from also?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious as to whether you&#8217;ve contacted any of the merchants effected by this and what their response was, if any.
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		<title>by: Kellie AFP</title>
		<link>http://affiliatefairplay.com/newsblog/2007/08/06/when-your-network-is-an-affiliate-and-adware-company/#comment-44030</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well they are going to want to list the biggest brands as partners. While I don't have a consolidated merchant list for them, I've seen much smaller merchants they are partnered with as well as smaller networks.

The bigger brands will always attract the nonsense because overall more people shop at bigger brands. That's why they are bigger brands. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well they are going to want to list the biggest brands as partners. While I don&#8217;t have a consolidated merchant list for them, I&#8217;ve seen much smaller merchants they are partnered with as well as smaller networks.</p>
<p>The bigger brands will always attract the nonsense because overall more people shop at bigger brands. That&#8217;s why they are bigger brands. <img src='http://affiliatefairplay.com/newsblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Mike Hyland</title>
		<link>http://affiliatefairplay.com/newsblog/2007/08/06/when-your-network-is-an-affiliate-and-adware-company/#comment-44020</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>How come the biggest branded merchants always show up on these commission theftware applications. Overstock -Target -TigerDirect -Buy.com etc etc</description>
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